Rosinante nods at Stone's commentary, then looks over at Javert again.

"I know. Magic like what I'm describing isn't something I had at home either. But people here have abilities that can't be explained by any science I'm familiar with, and they do work. Whether you want to call it magic or search for a concrete, nonmagical explanation, their spells and wards are still real things. Why not use them to our advantage?"